TRIUMPHALIST--YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT?

TRIUMPHALIST--YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT? I believe that the Catholic Church was founded by Christ, on his Apostles, especially Peter, the first Pope. I believe in the teachings of the Ecumenical councils, I revere the Fathers of the Church, and I am an unapologetic Ultramontane Catholic. If you don't like it, too bad.


"I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF EXHORTATIONS TO SILENT! CRY OUR WITH A HUNDRED THOUSAND TONGUES. I SEE THE WORLD IS ROTTEN BECAUSE OF SILENCE."--St. Catherine of Sienna

Tuesday, October 27, 2009

Bishop Trautman, I am not stupid.

Nor am I ignorant. I picked "Ignorant Redneck" as a blog moniker because I was fed up with being regarded as ignorant by my own Church.

You said, and I quote, "The vast majority of God's people in the assembly are not familier with words of the new missal like "ineffible', 'consubstancial', 'incarnate' {Incarnate? What about churches with Incarnation in their name, or schools as well?} 'inviolate', 'oblation', 'ignomy', 'precursor', 'suffused', and 'unvanquished'.

I have news for you, Boyo, I don't know a single Catholic over the age of 18 who doesn't know these words. In fact, Anne Hathaway, the actress (not a profession especially noted for subtle academic shadings) used "ineffible" in an interview on an entertainment program--and everyone got it. We are not stupid. We are not ignorant.

And I'm damned tired of you assuming that we don't speak english any better than we do Latin.

Moreover, if there are Catholics who don't understand words like "consubstancial" or "oblation" because of their theological overtones or meaning, I would look not to a way to avoid teaching them, were I you, but fufill the duties of a Bishop to Teach Sanctify and Rule.

Actually, if we are ignorant, it's a judgment against you and your ministry.

4 comments:

Lola said...

Bravo!


It is a certain amount of responsiblity on the part of the faitful to learn and to teach.

Have you given any thought to going back to school? Maybe get a Theological/Justice Degree?
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"tired of you assuming that we don't speak english any better than we do Latin"

Do you think there's any "elitism" in our Hierarchy?

ignorant redneck said...

"Elitism in our Hierarchy?" No, of course not! It's just that we who pay all the bills are just stupid!

Going back to School? Actually, if I ever have money again, I want to study for and recieve a Pontifical Chatecal Diploma from Catholic Distance University. The diploma is regulated by and registered with the Sacred Congregation for the Clergy. That way when I say something to a DRE or Pastor about what they're pulling, I can point out that I am recognozed by the Vatican as knowing the Faith well enough to teach it--which most DREs and Faith Formation Teachers are not.

Since I have such a motive, I imagine that's why I don't have the money!

Lola said...

I want one of those Pontifical Chatecal Diploma from Catholic Distance University!

But, other than getting thems that are trying to pull something, what else can I do with it?

ignorant redneck said...

Lola--

The Diploma is supposed to mean that you are recognized as qualified to teach chatechism, (RCIA, etc.) throughout the Church.

However, the US Bishops have been thunderous in their silence concerning this, preferring to require their own training programs. (Usualy lasting a few hours and ensuring that religious ed teachers even know their own faith.)